A Path: Apathy
by zhx
There was a time in my life, from late high school and for several years afterward, where I embraced a philosophy of my own design, which I called “aggressive apathy.” The idea was that not only did you not give a shit about what everybody else on the planet concerned themselves with, you went out of your way to not give a shit. Here’s an example: For the first several weeks after GW Bush was elected president, a couple friends and I went out of our way to not learn who was elected. That was not an easy task, but several of us pulled it off for quite a while. I was 18, the US had elected a new president, and I intentionally did not know who it was.
Because, really, how would knowing who the president was affect my life at all? Or affect anything? It didn’t, and I loved my philosophy. I even wrote a short essay in its defense, which was widely panned by my mom and a friend who had recently decided politics were really cool.
So fast forward a couple years and I’m a little older and maybe a little wiser, and I’d dropped aggressive apathy in favor of aggressively caring about shit, because that’s what smart people do. Though I had previously been an atheist out of apathy, I was now atheist for a reason and Christians were all idiots and fuck all Republicans because Republican invariably means Christian and Christians are the badguys and everything’s either black or white and I needed to pick sides in all things. I read a bazillion books from prominent atheist authors, Dawkins, Hitchens, Harris, etc, and thought I’d gotten everything pretty well figured out. My Facebook profile made things easier by giving me labels to slap on myself. Liberal. Atheist. Opinionated as fuck, and if we disagree, we argue until we agree that I am right. That was basically how things went for a couple years.
Then I joined Reddit, where there’s a fairly large and vitriolic atheist community, and I subscribed to their forum and read their articles and discussions daily. The problem is, the community as a whole is so fucking over the top, it’s a parody of itself. Everybody in there discussing religion and gods and blah blah blah are all condescending, elitist pseudo-intellectuals, parroting the same few talking points over and over and basically running a very simple argument completely into the ground. And then some. It slowly started to dawn on me: “Oh, fuck. I’m one of these people.”
But I didn’t have a lot of time to think about it, because election season was in full swing and I was busy frothing at the mouth whenever Republicans were on-screen and found myself identifying with politicians that have absolutely nothing in common with me, don’t even care who the fuck I am or what I want out of my life, and, aside from possibly sharing a few progressive ideas with me, are most likely terrible, terrible people. I loved Kucinich, but he was clearly too fringy, and who cares about who most closely represents you or your ideas if they can’t win, because it’s not about principles but winning, so I hopped on the Obama bandwagon pretty early on. Me and everybody else my age. I got swept up in the whole mess, attended his speech in Portland (with a million other people), argued with the Clinton supporters and, just like with my militant atheist days, generally made an ass out of myself.
When you’re this high on yourself, you come down pretty hard. Nina and I watched on election night as McCain conceded the presidency, and there was a brief moment of elation where I thought “Wow, I was a part of something really important here,” while people celebrated up and down Burnside street. Then it was more like, “…okay, now what?”
After he got sworn in and immediately started disappointing all the progressives that deluded themselves into thinking this guy was anything more than a moderate, I was over it. Just that quickly. It’s just politics as usual from this point on, and now that we all believe we made some sort of difference, everything goes back to normal. You know what difference it made when I voted for John Kerry in 2004? None. You know what difference it made when I voted for Obama in 2008? None. What was the point of all that passion, time, and energy? There wasn’t one. I was just tricked into taking sides in every single aspect of my life, and that is so completely unlike me, I’m embarrassed for it. When people split into factions, I’ve always created my own faction. When teams were chosen on the playground, I chose not to play, because fuck teams. In high school I didn’t believe in school spirit, and I have no pride as an American. These things are accidental by-products of my birth. I didn’t choose to be born in America any more than I chose to be born on the west side of my town, rather than the east side of my town, which dictated what high school I would attend. The shitty thing is, the things I was spending my time choosing — and choosing to be proud of — ultimately bore no consequence. Does it make any difference in my life or anybody else’s that I believe there is no god? No. Did it make any difference if I convinced a single supporter of Hillary Clinton to vote for Obama? Fuck no. What a fucking waste of time.
Since then I’ve started to develop an almost physical aversion to “heavy” talk. As soon as things start to sway political or religious now, I find my eyes rolling involuntarily. When people try to trick me into discussions like this, I will state something simply and briefly (if at all), and be done with it (I often try to change the subject, or ignore the conversation entirely). Does this make my opinions any less valid to me? No. I believe there is no god, and I believe that if you believe there is a god you are wrong. I believe that humans have an inherent right to healthcare, and that free market economies do not work. If you disagree with me, I believe you are wrong. Will I tell you you’re wrong? Most likely not. See, I quit giving a fuck. But not like “aggressive apathy.” The key now seems to be that I don’t care that I don’t care.
I have more important things to worry about. Like, trying to figure out what the fuck to do with my life, since I’m approaching 30 and don’t have a plan, or even a plan for a plan. This is partially a result of another thing I’ve come to realize in recent months: Every three years or so, I can look back at myself and say “Wow, I was a fucking idiot.” It happened at 25, it happened around 21, it happened around 18, and clearly it’s happening again. It just took me this long to realize that in three years from now I’ll be thinking “Wow, I was a fucking idiot,” so I’ve quit taking myself so goddamn seriously.
It’s very liberating when you finally realize you’re a fucking idiot. It’s probably the best start I’ve had in years.
That’s awesome. I’d like to think that’s what I’m like, but who knows. It does feel pretty good to not care about not caring. I’ve always looked back and wondered what the fuck I was thinking too. It helps if you have books of song lyrics.
Nothing will put you in your place quicker than reading shit you wrote ten years previous, you know, when you were writing really heavy shit man.
“This is gonna blow peoples fucking minds..”
*Bashes on guitar and scream incoherently into a 50 dollar PA*
“I’m changing the fucking world…”
Realizing the frivolity of most things seems so important. It’s always interesting when you come to the end of yourself – and realize how little gain came from all of the work you’ve been establishing. One of the things we seem to put the most emphasis on in this culture is opinions and beliefs, and forcing other people to think yours are right while building up blockades against any other viewpoints from entering your perspective.
Life is so much better when you can let go of that.
Yeah, looking back on yourself is tough. This blog is approaching five years old and a lot of the stuff on it is embarrassing, but I keep it up. Helps keep me in check, I guess. It’s like a fossil record of my stupidity’s evolution.
It was a wise man who once said that the unexamined life was not worth living.
I think it was also a wise man that said “let it be.”
I don’t know what you guys are talking about. Every time I look back on myself and think of how I was I just realize that I’m basically perfect. Of course, how could YOU guys know what that feels like. This was a wasted post, it’s like trying to explain the finer points of a rimjob to a nun.
I don’t know what nuns you’re running with but they sound pretty dull.
so true…i myself, coincidentally, recently decided against all conversation political or religion-based. I don’t know what’s really “important”, but I know what isn’t…and that’s my (based entirely on life experience and whatever filtered info I’ve received) opinion on shit i have nothing to do with. Thus, deleting the opinion aspect entirely solves the problem.
P.S. To completely contradict what I just said, I had a funny thought. You ever notice how most put more effort into getting their point across about what they DON’T believe that what they DO? Kinda like people who don’t own a TV and make it a point to throw that in every chance they get in conversation. sigh
P.P.S. I also decided to no longer discuss celebrities. Possibly even more of a waste than religion and politics as far as conversation goes.
Did you guys hear about Brittany Murphy?
Tragedy.
well said, well said.
I too have thought much on this and feel in about the same place as you. I’m getting use to the soul crushing reality of utter pointlessness. I try to laugh at it and laugh at those who still attach such importance to issues. I know the feeling of being in a room with kids fresh from their parent’s house reading their first copy of On The Road and trying to discuss the “big things” in life. I always try and walk away and if I can’t I try to hold in my laughter. But in most cases I get drug right back into it and instead of debating the issue at hand I end up debating the reason for debating at all – and everyone stops talking to me.
I’ve found myself becoming more and more of a hermit because the point of even holding normal conversations is lost on me and rather than discussing people, places or the weather with people I’d rather just have no friends. It all adds up to a horribly frustrating existence where I’m constantly having to explain myself to people who feel I’m being anti-social or just mean. And the more I think about it I agree with them. Because the only answer I can come to on all of it is that meaning and purpose are created by the individual choosing what is meaningful to them. Much like how the protons and neutrons in an atom can not be located until observed, neither can meaning or importance be qualified without observation. But I also think it is important to know and remember that what you are choosing to believe in is a facade. That way you don’t end up attaching yourself to something so deeply that you will harm yourself or others. But maybe there are somethings worth getting convicted over – I guess I’m still trying to figure that out.
Anyway, just wanted to add my two cents – I’ll probably change my mind and be embarrassed by in as soon as I hit submit. I’m finding more and more with the things I write I sort of have to stop listening to myself and just take the plunge. So….here it goes.
Oh Em Gee Vince Vaughn got married!!!
Hey, a conversation on my blog. That hasn’t happened since we all argued about suicides.
Not killing yourself. Mixing pop.
Jesse makes me laugh.
Oh, and we’re all old bitter fucks now. Pretty rad if you ask me.
You guys need to get laid. These comments are turning into Henry Rollins’ poetry.
So true… I myself now put a finger into each of my ears and go “lalalalalala…” whenever someone says something that I use a catch all phrase like religious or political to classify – to keep myself from having a response. I find that the safest way to go through life is with no opinion because holy shit what if it turns out I don’t feel that way in years? What if I have to admit I was wrong and be humbled? That would be worse than that time I had to explain to Ryan how my penis got stuck in the hole in his wall.
P.S. I have a television, but it’s not a flatscreen so I’m not a sellout.
P.P.S. Vince Vaughan, Tom Cruise, Jessica Alba, Will Smith, Rihanna – Let’s talk about them.
who’s chris w? nice rollins reference preceding a parody of an in itself very contradictory (and self-referenced as such) thought by someone you don’t know and will never have anything to do with. god, i’m doing it again! please sleep tight tonite assured that no one gives a fuck about your opinion sir, as I have realized no one does about mine…y’know unless i tell them on a comment on a blog. conquered that one! on to the next supervillain! call me, chris, lets discuss our thoughts..you can get my # I’m sure
Hahaha…Oh no…hahaha
I do have to agree with Chris…as contradictory as it may seem to previous comments. I certainly remember licking Chris’ ear one night to drive home his argument with a dude. It is kinda nice to be humbled. It does sometimes feel good to have someone flick the switch as it were. Maybe sometimes you’re being a fucking idiot.
When one gets somewhat “put in his place” about something, it gives you a reason to look back, and get more pissed off and write even more angry lyrics about it.
I’ve actually realized lately, that it’s more gratifying to put that passion into something you can see instant results in. Volunteering at a soup kitchen, anything with kids…stuff like that. Putting a smile on anyone’s face (including Justin Stevens’ face) is worthwhile. If I’m lining the pocket books of a political campaign – probably not gonna see the benefit. If I’m punching myself in the nuts so I see a little dude laugh – absolutely worth it. Giving a dude a warm meal – totally worth it.
Am I drunk – absolutely. I hope this makes sense.
You must be drunk. Soup kitchen? Kids? What? But yes, I agree that it is important to put as much effort into entertaining Stevens as possible.
Ha, yeah. But I’ve put in a good deal of time helping out dudes and kids at the Holy Cross food/shelter thingie here in town. It’s pretty rad to help out dudes, and give ‘em a warm meal and a smile. And regardless of where you’re punching yourself in the nuts for kids, if they’re in a shitty situation and it helps them smile and forget about it for a bit, all the better.
I might not agree with everything about the Holy Cross food/shelter – if it means someone down on anything for whatever reason – doesn’t mean they should be neglected the right to eat. And that’s pretty rad. And I guess that’s what I’m getting at. Dudes need food.
Can you guys believe that Simon Cowell is quitting american idol
Hahahaha. I know that’s so fucked up. Isn’t he starting his own talent search show or some shit. I mean, you spend so long building up an empire like American Idol, to just leave it all behind you like it never happened. Totally messed up.
I knew that show was doomed when they let Paula go!!!
And using Ellen DeGeneres as a replacement? Come on! She is so 1994. I say bring Paula back.
And all this business about David Hasselhoff leaving America’s Got Talent? Come on! Give me a break.
I can’t believe you guys know this stuff.
I can’t believe you don’t!!!
Yeah! What the fuck Bill?
Joel, I can joke and parody anyone. I love you. Put your vagina away and relax.
Yea pull your skirt down and grow a set
I suppose I should be flattered for the attention. Rarely does someone who doesn’t know me from anyone actually read anything I write and take the time to re-type it to suit their own self-agrandizing agenda. Thanks! Just the self esteem boost my vagina needed to relax and possibly transform itself back into testicles.
Should you have an actual legitimate desire to delve deeper into my thoughts and see where my head is at, feel free to drop me a line, though, seriously. I will gladly answer all questions. [Removed email, spam prevention]
ooh do jeph next, chris! unless you know him, though, it would most likely be less funny to someone like me outside your circle
geez.
Hmm…